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  • Started 9 months ago by nikhilsg
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  1. nikhilsg
    Member

    Hey MikeFoss thanks for your reply. I was wondering the same thing as well.

    But to be honest I'm wondering if getting this jaw surgery done WHENEVER I do (most likely in a few years) will be able to...I don't know the right word to use here...but be able to transform or drastically change my face? Because I do not have any overbite or under-bite or cross-bite, but just asymmetry which I feel really brings down my physical appearance and my self confidence. And from what I understand, surgeons can perform a genioplasty on top of the jaw surgery. So shouldn't those two procedures change the facial structure as well as the appearance of the patient to a high degree?

    Thanks

    NSG

    Posted 9 months ago #
  2. MikeFoss
    Member

    Thanks RYANvaughn. I'm guessing the same now that lengthening involves some sort of bone graft. My understanding was that by moving the jaws into their new position (possibly lowering the shorter side of the jaw!), the missing bone might grow back. I'll ask my surgeon about this next time I see him.
    @nikhilsg- In my case, I have cross bite as well and I believe this whole asymmetry of my jaws has a lot to do with the cross-bite. So you can probably go see a maxfax and see if you have any issues with you bite too. I had this cross-bite before starting braces, and now I'm seeing a noticeable slope in my teeth which is more prominent in my bottom ones. It slopes down from the shorter side of my jaw (left side) to the longer side. This slope is consistent with the fact that my jaws are skewed to the left.
    From the aesthetic aspect, I like the longer side of my jaw in the profile view much more than the shorter side. In my opinion, the surgery should improve the facial proportions significantly if jaws end up being symmetrical.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  3. Ryan
    Member

    Mike, email me at churchsox@gmail.com I bet our jaws look very similar. I've also consulted with a number of the best surgeons in the country if you'd like some suggestions.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  4. justafewquestions
    Member

    i love this site!!! .man, it took me soooo long to understand what my issues were, but i finally can see my "problems". i can relate to what everyone is saying. one side of my jaw is longer than the other, too (the ramus, or part that gives vertical height to the jaw, is shorter on one side). i had an impacted tooth when i was younger, and a very crowded mouth, so, i got braces, and they ended up masking my asymmetry, but never addressing the underlying skeletal issue. the result? my teeth meet, but they are also tilted, and i have never been satisfied with my results, as my chin is probably more off center now, and i feel like i have TMJ.

    my jaw looks a lot like yours, NIK, (but probably worse....my "cant" is very pronounced in my lower jaw). my cheekbones look the same, too: one side is definitely more prominent than the other. basically, i have concluded that one side of my face is a bit smaller (has less bone in the jaw, cheekbones, etc.). i mean, it is by no means "major" and we are all our own harshest critics, but prior to puberty, i was very proportionate. however, once i started growing, my jaws grew at a different rate, and never matched up. i feel like i'm still a good looking guy, but i can definitely feel that there is not balance in my face as there was when i was younger.

    anyways, i went to several dentsists/orthodontists, and it has been tough because even though they can see the asymmetry, everyone has a different plan for me. yes, my teeth fit, but my bite is off. some just say to get braces, some say leave it alone, some say where a split, and some say to get surgery.

    i realized that dentists really are in it for the money, so be careful who you see. someone mentioned that they went to 6 or 7 surgeons before they heard what they "wanted" to hear. and, that's the key: you will find someone who knows what you want, and you probably won't stop until you find them, if you really want it bad enough.

    my thinking: if you're going to do something, do it right, or don't do it at all. no implants, no masking the issue, no splints: just correct the issue so it's taken care of.

    anyhow, the surgeon i believe i am going to use said he would lengthen one side of my jaw, and possible shorten the other. keep in mind, i think i have a much greater asymmetry in my lower jaw than you do. one side is a lot shorter (which causes my teeth to tilt that way, and my chin to move to that side). everything feels so much tighter on that side of my face, and due to only chewing on that side, i can see the difference in facial muscles. basically, it is just not balanced, and it shows the longer you go w/o treating it. i am 27 now, and got my braces off when i was about 16.

    i was not told i would be needing a bone graft, but basically one side would be lengthened, and one side would be shortened.

    i was told by a neuromuscular dentist that i could start TENS therapy, wear a splint, and this would cause the short side of my jaw to create an "open bite" because all of the stress from years of chewing on my shortened side. however, i don't think i want to settle for a splint. i want to get it treated once and for all.

    this being said, it is not "major" to many people. i get a lot of compliments on my teeth, actually. however, it does matter to me, and i realized that's all that needs to matter. i constantly stretch my jaw to relieve the stress of it, and i hate taking profile pictures, because sometimes it catches the imbalance of my facial features, and i just hate to look at it. i have maybe 2 pictures of myself from the side, and they are all at a certain angle.

    i never liked seeing pictures of myself after braces. sometimes i feel like i'm way too hard on myself. however, there is asymmetry there. that's a fact. and, i don't obsess about anything else in my body.

    i guess here is my main concern: it is going to be a long process, and i'm afraid that maybe i won't be content with the final process. that scares me, especially since i was in braces for 3 years, and felt like i was "uglier" when i came out of them. but, then again, it may be a bigger risk to go through life and feel self conscious about my profile.

    ok, i'm rambling, but this helps me decide what to do. hopefully someone else can relate.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  5. nikhilsg
    Member

    Sorry guys, but I had one more question...I am actually a fairly skinny guy but for some reason I have some considerable fat in the region underneath my chin and and around my neck. So will getting jaw surgery eliminate that fat there?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  6. ocmama2four
    Moderator

    I have a lot of issues with my jaws that will be fixed with surgery but I was really surprised that my ortho was alble to fix my tilted lower jaw with my braces and rubberbands. My left lower jaw kind of dipped down like a roller coaster. I looked fine with my mouth closed but you could only see the right lower teeth when I talked. It was really weird. My ortho put a rubberband in the shaped of an upside down v from my lower jaw to my upper jaw on my left side and had me double it up at night. Surprisely it totally raised my lower left side and now it is totally equal to my right. It pulled so much at night my teeth were shut tight. It is amazing what an ortho can do with rubberbands. Also, when I got my insurance approval letter it said I was approved for a bone graft. My surgeon never mentioned anything about me having a bone graft so I asked him about it. He said he wouldn't know if I needed one until he did the surgery and saw how big the gap would be with my multi piece lefort 1. He said if it wasn't too big of a gap that the bone will just grow back.

    I had a 2 piece LeFort 1 that widened my upper jaw 3-4mm, my upper jaw was shortened by 6mm to reduce my gummy smile, pushed back 3mm and tilted up in the back. My lower jaw was pushed back 3mm. Surgery was December 1, 2011
    http://www.jennsjawsurgery.blogspot.com
    Posted 8 months ago #
  7. keokeo
    Member

    just happened upon this thread and wanted to point out i just had surgery for the same type of issue. i'm not far enough along to know my final results, but there's a definite improvement. check out my blog below for pics.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  8. nikhilsg
    Member

    hey keokeo thanks for your reply

    i looked at your blog and the pics...and i feel like there is quite a bit of improvement and you prbbly still have a few weeks/months till the swelling goes down so you'll prbbly see more of the final result later on.

    But i noticed that you had the surgery in El paso? I live in houston, so i was wondering who your surgeon was?

    Thanks

    Posted 6 months ago #
  9. keokeo
    Member

    sorry nikhil, i hadn't seen your reply. i actually had my surgery in baltimore, because i used to live in DC and relocated to texas only after i had my surgery date set. so unfortunately, i do not know any surgeons to recommend in texas. have you made any progress?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  10. streo
    Member

    nikhilsg,

    Here's a big-time Hollywood actor with a way more severe asymmetry than you:

    http://bit.ly/zEWFqz
    http://bit.ly/AswJUr

    I hate to sound condescending but I don't think your issue is as bad as you think it is. If your teeth are fine, I doubt any OMFS would take your case as there are many risks involved with such a surgery that are just not worth it. Your best bet is to go talk to a plastic surgeon and have facial implants put in to make your face "symmetrical", but you may end up looking a little odd years later as facial implants tend to do weird things in the long run.

    Also, there are many things to consider when it comes to facial aesthetics and orthognathic surgery. The OMFS/orthodontist will do an assessment of how you currently look to see if your look is within "acceptable" norms of beauty. If you have a high degree of aesthetic harmony (which you clearly do), then the two doctors will work together to minimize the impact of the surgery on your face. For docs, people that approach orthognathic surgery with a more positive degree of facial harmony it's difficult to work because they could easily make you ugly if they are not careful.

    There seems to be a misnomer that orthongathic surgery will always make you look better when this is not always the case. I once found a paper discussing this very topic. The study involved before/after pictures of a few people that had orthognathic surgery and they asked some people from a modelling agency to rate the before and after, and some of the people were rated "less aesthetically pleasing" than before. I'll post it once I find it.

    Posted 2 months ago #

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